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PRE-DEPLOYMENT TRAINING IN HEATON PARK 1914-1918
« on: October 22, 2007, 07:29:05 PM »
Firstly, can I say a huge thank you to all those that helped in my search for information on the old forum in regards to:

Private  McDONALD, JOHN
Unit: 1st Bn.
Regiment: Manchester Regiment
Service No: 2114
Age: 22
Date of Death: 11 November 1914
Commemoration: LE TOURET MEMORIAL
France
Panels 34 and 35.
Additional Information: Son of Andrew and Margaret Jane McDonald, of 219, Cobden St., Bradford Rd., Manchester.

I believe there are a couple of outstanding questions that I need to answer in order to complete the whole picture but have all the facts before paying a visit to France next year and be in a position of conveying the whole piece to the surviving family (my mother in law and her sister our John's great nieces'). I am still without his obituary and the final details of his death!

My second spot of research is in regards to the use of Heaton Park, Blackley-Prestwich Manchester during the period 1914-18. I am aware that some training went on within the park but the more finer detail is lacking. The exact locations and dates etc would be great to know. The who's and where's etc.......

Can anybody assist?............ :)

Andy  
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Re: PRE-DEPLOYMENT TRAINING IN HEATON PARK 1914-1918
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 10:25:54 PM »


there were 4 camps in the park, going clockwise

hall camp (behind heaton hall)

middleton road camp ( parallel to sheepfoot lane, close to the corner with midd road)

bury old road camp (along side bury old road, prior to st marge church)

st margarets camp (off st margarets road after church)

A coy of the 1st city batt (16th) were marched here on the 9th sept 1914 to prepare the camp

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Re: PRE-DEPLOYMENT TRAINING IN HEATON PARK 1914-1918
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 11:13:23 PM »
just re-reading your post, don't confuse 1st battalion manchester regiment with the 1st city battalion, who where the 16th battalion

the 1st battalion were in india at the start of the war but were fighting in france while the training of the pals battalions was going on in heaton park

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Re: PRE-DEPLOYMENT TRAINING IN HEATON PARK 1914-1918
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2007, 11:16:31 PM »
Chris,

I wasn't confused between the battalions, my pre-deployment query was just a pitched against the Heaton Park issue. I am well aware, thanks to many members that the 1st Battalion came from India.

My query was thrown up as a general one against troops that trained in the park and the locations etc.

Andy
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   Only the monstrous anger of the guns.
       Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle
           Can patter out their hasty orisons."

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Re: PRE-DEPLOYMENT TRAINING IN HEATON PARK 1914-1918
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2007, 11:32:50 PM »
right mate

some good reference books for the pals pre-deployment are stedmans 'manchester pals' but much better 'the manchester regiments 1914-18, 16th -19th battalions'

i was just looking at your info on john

chris
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