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mick g

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ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« on: April 13, 2009, 08:57:03 PM »
HI MY LATE FATHER SERVED WITH THE PIONEER CORPS HE WORKED ON THE PLUTO PROJECT  I HAVE FOUND A PICTURE OF A BURRIAL PARTY EITHER FRANCE OR BELGIUM ON THE REVERSE HE WROTE THIS IS A FUNERAL OF A YOUNG LAD 21 YEARS OLD WHO WAS BLOWEN UP LIFTING THE PIPE OF PLUTO AFTER THE WAR HAD ENDED HE CAME FRON ASHTON NEWCASTLE UNDER LYNE CAN ANYONE HELP ME IDENTIFY THIS PERSON AND IF HE IS ON ANY WAR MEMORIAL REGARDS MICK GRAY

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 12:33:29 AM »
Ashton under Lyne is in Tamside, Greater Manchester, Newcastle Under Lyne is in Staffordshire.


Do you have a name for the young lad

tisgrannie

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 03:16:58 AM »
Hi, is it not Newcastle under Lyme?
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Optymystic

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 02:06:48 PM »
Ashton under Lyne always was an important base for the Manchesters, my uncle (9th Battalion) signed up their in May 1939 and the Manchesters' Museum is in Aston Library. Having been resident in both, I do not recognise an Ashton near Newcastle under Lyme though for obvious reasons like names involving Oak and Elm, there are a lot of Ashtons. Incidentally the Lyne/Lyme reference is to one single historic entity the great forest of Lyme which ran from the Midlands up the Western side of the Pennines, so Aston under Lyne is slightlly corrupted usage.

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 07:39:20 AM »
The Manchester's museum,is in the town hall,where the market is.

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 08:33:38 AM »
there was/is a place called ashton,in newcastle under lyme

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 09:19:52 AM »
HI EVERYONE,  hope this helps, ;D

Newcastle-under-Lyme city (1991 pop. 73,208) and district, Staffordshire, W central England,  CLOSE BY ASTON
There's a small river called the Lyme that runs next to the A34. Newcastle is south of it, hence the name - Newcastle Under Lyme.

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under Lyne
There is some confusion over the origin of the "Lyne" element. A number of sources suggest that it refers to the place being under the line of the nearby Pennine hills. However, the name has only been spelt this way in modern times so this explanation seems unlikely.

One document of 1422 refers to the town as "Ashton sub Lima". Ashton later became known as "Ashton under Lyme". The name seems to have become changed to "Ashton under Lyne" by the time of the Victorian era.

It would see, then, that "Lyne" has been corrupted from the word "Lime" or "Lyme". According to various sources, the most likely origin of this "Lyme" element would seem to be from the ancient forest of Lyme, which at one time covered the uplands to the east of Southern Lancashire and Cheshire. The word "lyme" meant area of elm trees, and this would also be the likely origin of the names of Limehurst, Limeside, Lyme Park and even Newcastle under Lyme.

Other sources suggest that the "under Lyne" elements come from latin words meaning "within the boundary", indicating that Ashton was just within the boundary of Lancashire and before that Northumbria.

So, there is not one clear answer to the origin of the name, but it could well be the town takes its name from a house near some ash trees in a forest of elm trees!

« Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 01:26:03 PM by tonyrod »

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 12:38:35 PM »
Hi tony !

Newcastle-under-Lyme city (1991 pop. 73,208) and district, Staffordshire, W central England,  CLOSE BY ASHTON
  Does that mean that there IS a place close by Newcastle-under-Lyme called Ashton ?

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 01:24:58 PM »
hi wendi,  its a village but its  spelt ASTON  , sorry if this caused  confusion  will correct, tony

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 09:20:19 PM »
tony I don't think you have confused anything !!!

In fact you may have solved mick g's problem !!

THIS IS A FUNERAL OF A YOUNG LAD 21 YEARS OLD WHO WAS BLOWEN UP LIFTING THE PIPE OF PLUTO AFTER THE WAR HAD ENDED HE CAME FRON ASHTON NEWCASTLE UNDER LYNE

Aston / Ashton

What do you think, certainly the writer was very sure it was NEWCASTLE UNDER LYNE.......

Wendi  :)
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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 01:10:55 PM »
hi wendi,  i think a search of local papers  could be the answer, 
link to aston.  tony
http://www.ukvillages.co.uk/ukvillages.nsf/c08?open&s=villagehomepage08&v=Aston-Staffordshire

davesmum

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 10:47:33 PM »
Hi ,I live in Staffordshire ,and have not heard of a place called Ashton in Newcastle under Lyne .Aston is a village close to Stone which is in Staffordshire .Hope that this helps .

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Re: ashton nr newcastle under lyne
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2009, 08:26:13 AM »
hi wendi,  i think a search of local papers  could be the answer,  
link to aston.  tony
http://www.ukvillages.co.uk/ukvillages.nsf/c08?open&s=villagehomepage08&v=Aston-Staffordshire

HI DAVESMUM, have a look at the link,it is outside newcastle u lyme .tonyrod
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