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Offline DaveMurphy

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16th Batt POWs
« on: December 17, 2008, 10:12:43 AM »
G'day Tis/All,

I have been hiding for a little while, but have just fired up my Database again!

This fella caught my eye due to his Burial Place:

7346 LCpl J A Burns

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=901035

Noting he was buried in the Cologne Southern Cemetery, and in its descirption it seems to be a collection point for chaps who died within Germany, would he have been a POW? His name is not lised in 'our' POW Database.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 08:27:38 PM »
L/cpl john,alfred burns
enl 11-1-15
aged 21
occupation,miner
born.13-7-1891
E.coy XVIII platoon.
16th manchesters
bomber
father alfred,109 margaret st,manchester.
admitted to the 96th field ambulance[sick] on 5th oct 1916,sent to 16th gen hospital,le treport
rejoined on 31-10-16
wounded in the forearm,on 23rd april 1917,passed through the 20th CCS,5th gen hospital,rouen and put on board the hospital ship,SS grantully castle,sent to perth war hospital,discharged to convalescent leave,on 26th may 1917
died at weidenan near siegen,westphalia,on 27-7-18[cause unknown]
any personal effects,were to be sent to miss a smith,98 south st,openshaw,manchester.

mack

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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 08:32:36 PM »
evening Mr Murphy

good to have you back!!

cheers

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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 09:52:20 PM »
So I guess Mack, based on thise details that he made it back to the Battalion somehow? I wonder when, and if he was captured?? Maybe at Manchester Hill??

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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 10:58:10 PM »
Thanks Dave and mack he is not listed on our POWs Will get it on before I head off to the sun.
tisgrannie

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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2008, 05:09:07 PM »
Hi Tis et al  ;)

I'm not sure he was actually PoW, mack says

,discharged to convalescent leave,on 26th may 1917
died at weidenan near siegen,westphalia,on 27-7-18[cause unknown]

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Wendi  :)
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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 01:34:04 PM »
So I guess Mack, based on thise details that he made it back to the Battalion somehow? I wonder when, and if he was captured?? Maybe at Manchester Hill??
theres no details or date of his capture,but manchester hill,is the most likely dave.

mack

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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 10:39:53 AM »
G'dayTeam,

Another potential POW not listed in the POW database, only due to his burial place. The date ties in with a Manchester Hill capture, but of course, my assumption may be way off!

LCpl A Clarke
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Death: 5/5/1918
Buried: Berlin South Western Cemetery

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=895273

Cheers,

Dave




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Re: 16th Batt POWs
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 08:40:57 AM »
Both confirmed as PoWs. Burns was captured 23.03.18 at St Quentin and died of a chest infection. Clarke (without an e on the ICRC records) was also captured on 21.3.1918 at La Capelle, he died of a head wound at Zerbst, he had also been wounded in the hand and right lower leg.