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Crossy

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Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« on: November 14, 2008, 05:59:49 PM »
My great uncle James Edmund Millar  Reg no : 4254 12th Battalion Manchester Regiment born 17/7/1890 - I have found his Army pension details on Ancestry.  But I believe he served in India and died there in Dec 1921 how would I find out where he was buried and also do not understand what he was doing there if he was pensioned from army.  Also can anyone tell me why some men have pension records and some do not? 

Hope these are not stupid questions!!! 

Regards Nina

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Re: Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 09:26:33 PM »
hmm  it sounds like he recovered and signed up again, but to be honest i'm surprised he got as pension in the first place, they weren't exactly giving them away
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Re: Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 04:47:55 PM »
Thanks dont understand the records on ancestry:  it says Pension but the form says Short Service ( 3 years with the colours)  it says posted: 15.10.14 discharged : 14.11.14 - that is only weeks!! also something to the words of: not likely to ??? para 392 ???  and then something about chief constable, Oldham.  I hope he was not a bad boy!! any ideas I would love to know what it all means.  And what was he doing in India - how can I find out where he was buried.

Many thanks all you clever people!!!

Nina

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Re: Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 05:14:44 PM »
 ;D ;Ddont worry nina,he wasnt a naughty boy,he was discharged as unlikely to be an efficient soldier.
they have to inform the police,and then they send them an armlet for him,he would wear this to show that he had volunteered,but had been rejected
it wasnt wise to walk round without it,cos he would have been abused by people,who thought he was a shirker.

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Re: Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 05:17:59 PM »
Still dont quite understand!! Sorry but he went to India and died so young!! So sad any ideas why he was discharged or what he did in India.  Thanks so much Mack.

Nina

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Re: Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 05:33:01 PM »
Hi Nina !

I can well understand your confusion ~ first let me try to explain but it will be little by little that you place the pieces of your jigsaw together !!

1st ~ the records, all of them, for WW1 soldiers sustained considerable damage during the German Bombings of 1940 and therefore only about 40% survived. These are known as "The burnt documents" and how Ancestry has defined them as Service records and pension records is beyond me. 

Anyway you have found your GUncle's joining up papers (lucky gal) and it shows that after he joined up he was assessed by an Army Doctor, who decided that he was not fit to serve.  (the doctors who allowed you to join up in the initial frenzy were not quite so thorough).  It's a pity we can not read more of the document attached, but I feel that the above is the drift of the document......

so my feeling is that he may well have gone to India to work, perhaps he could not stand it being in England and not in the Army like all his pals, have you seen this site http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/

It's good for furthering research......I'm afraid you may have a way to go to marry up family stories with the truth, but hey, that's 1/2 the fun !

Wendi  :)
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Re: Help required re Great Uncle who died in India
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 05:09:56 AM »
Still dont quite understand!! Sorry but he went to India and died so young!! So sad any ideas why he was discharged or what he did in India.  Thanks so much Mack.

Nina
hiya nina.
he was discharged due to an old injury,to his abdomen+chest.

mack