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ChrisH

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Sgt Fred Heath
« on: June 16, 2008, 08:11:22 PM »
Hello,  I am currently researching relatives who died in WW1.   I am currently looking for info on Sgt Fred Heath,  MM and Bar,   who was with 1st/7th Manchester Regiment.   He died of wounds in 1918 and is buried in Etaples Military Cemetery.
I would dearly like to find out how he got his MM and Bar,  I have tried all sorts of avenues but always seem to draw a blank
I would be grateful to hear from anyone who could point me in the right direction
Many thanks
Chris

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 08:41:44 PM »
Hello Chris
Welcome to the forum.

There will be other people that can help with more detail, I found the following.

CWGC entry.

Rank:   Serjeant
Regiment/Service:   Manchester Regiment
Unit Text:   1st/7th Bn.
Age:   24
Date of Death:   24/04/1918
Service No:   275254
Awards:   M M and Bar
Additional information:   Son of Edward and Agnes Heath, of 2, Ivy St., Greenheys, Manchester.
Casualty Type:   Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:   XXXII. B. 7.

The following from the London Gazette.

1612 SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 4 FEBRUARY, 1918
275254 Sjt. F. Heath, Manch. R. (Greenheys)

SUPPLEMENT TO  THE LONDON GAZETTE, 16 JULY, 1918. 8309
275254 Sjt. F. Heath, M.M., Manch. R.
(Chorlton-on-Medlock).

You can buy copies of the Gazette from the following link.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?GeoType=London

Timberman



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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 08:52:48 PM »
Many thanks Timberman,  that is superb,  I have been to his grave in Etaples,  I had tried the London Gazette before but drew a blank,  probably did it wrong.
Most of my Dads side of the family were either Manchester regiment or the Cheshire regiment in both wars
Many thanks again
Regards
Chris

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 09:55:11 PM »
Hi Chris

there's nothing more really on his sdgw entry but i'll attach it here


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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 10:04:35 PM »
it's very difficult to get the details of MMs I'm afraid

these are the LG entries

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 10:38:08 PM »
i've just tried the 42nd division history as well but no joy except in thew roll of honour and the awards

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 04:16:51 PM »
The  Seventh Manchesters by Captain S J Wilson MC.

Pages 62/63: (Nieuport) 'The dam was smashed and 2nd Lieut Milne found his working party broken up on each side of the canal.  Realising that one or two of the men had been hit he, along with Sgt Heath and Pte Titchener, scrambled across, although the shelling had not ceased, and looked after them, getting them to places of safety.'

'Milne received recognition for this, while Sgt Heath and Pte Titchener were awarded Military Medals.'

Page 80: 'It was whilst crawling out to resue a wounded man of the crew of a tank that Sergeant Heath MM was mortally wounded.'

Page 99: ' Sgt Heath, who had died of wounds, received a bar to his MM.'
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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 04:50:33 PM »
good work robert.

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 08:01:19 PM »
Absolutely brilliant Robert,  I can't thank you enough,  sadly though I remember many years ago asking Aunts and Uncles of details surrounding same,  no one was prepared to discuss anything about any of their military histories,  I wish I had joined this forum sooner...........................
Regards
Chris

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 09:15:06 PM »
and the good news is that the book The Seventh Manchesters, July 1916 to March 1919

is available free on line!

http://www.archive.org/details/sevenmanchester00wilsuoft

chris
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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2008, 04:07:13 PM »
I have just bought the book The 7th Manchesters from Amazon for £4.03 and while I was at it I bought the book The Somme Then and Now for the same price which has panoramic pictures of the Somme in WW1 and now,  quite good.  Because I spend time in France and Belgium this book makes it a lot easier when trying to see were the Battlefields were

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 05:07:57 PM »
The  Seventh Manchesters by Captain S J Wilson MC.

Pages 62/63: (Nieuport) 'The dam was smashed and 2nd Lieut Milne found his working party broken up on each side of the canal.  Realising that one or two of the men had been hit he, along with Sgt Heath and Pte Titchener, scrambled across, although the shelling had not ceased, and looked after them, getting them to places of safety.'

'Milne received recognition for this, while Sgt Heath and Pte Titchener were awarded Military Medals.'

Page 80: 'It was whilst crawling out to resue a wounded man of the crew of a tank that Sergeant Heath MM was mortally wounded.'

Page 99: ' Sgt Heath, who had died of wounds, received a bar to his MM.'


I can't thank you enough for posting this. Pte Titchener was my grandad!

I have some details about the circumstances of the award and was just looking on here for any other info that may surface. I have images of his medal book aswell.

Unfortunately I'm not in possession of any documents or the medal itself as he was my mothers father and the paperwork and medal have gone down that side of the family.....A great shame really as I've just completed 22 years service and would have been greatly honoured to have held it for him.

My thanks again.

Daz

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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 07:13:46 PM »
Daz

welcome to the group

why not open start a new thread to see if we can add a little more or just share his story?

chris
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Re: Sgt Fred Heath
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 07:25:05 PM »
Thanks harribobs

Sounds a great idea - I'll go ahead and do that.

Regards

Daz