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alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« on: November 21, 2007, 11:46:02 PM »
Has anyone got any details of Sergeant Major William Bailey the recruiting sergeant for Oldham, he served with the Manchesters for approx. 40 years and fought in the Boer War.  Unfortunately, we do not know his service number. (mod edit, seperate thread opened in Boer War section)
During WW1 as recruiting sergeant he signed up his three sons all of whom were killed, 2 in France and 1 in Greece, the boys were Private Alfred Bailey 2052 "A" Coy. 1st Bn. - Lance Corporal Charles William Bailey 9302 2nd Bn. (who went to India when he was 13)  and Lance Corporal Jack Bailey 2910 13th Bn. Any information on the boys would be welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 12:51:21 AM »
Here is a pic of them

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2007, 12:56:53 AM »
Hello and welcome. I looked with interest. How sad to lose 3 sons. I looked at the census for 1901 and found the family minus William in Oldham.
1891 reveals William and Phoebe residing at the Barracks in Ashton u  lyne. with Charles William a few months old. I see that William was from Macclesfield and Phoebe Liverpool. There are experts on here who will find you any info on the family or at least the battalions, that is available. Did you check out the Battalion index on the main site? They give a potted history. My grandfather lived in the Radcliffe St area and fought in the Boer war. In fact I just found out recently on this site that him and another soldier wrote a letter whilst in S Africa to a landlord of the Australia House Pub on Radcliffe St.
I am sure you will get some info later today. Good luck
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Re: sergeant major william bailey
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 10:14:18 AM »
the battalion were in trenches east of wulvergham when charles was killed.
on 9-12-1914
2/Lt g.w williamson and 45 men,moved out of their trenches at 6.30pm,to attack a german trench that had previously been located,they failed to surprise the enemy due to wire entanglements,heavy fire was directed on them and they were compelled to retire,2/Lt williamson and 2 men were killed,1 man wounded and 3 men missing.

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Re: alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 12:44:56 PM »
Name:     BAILEY, CHARLES WILLIAM
Initials:    C W
Nationality:    United Kingdom
Rank:    Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service:    Manchester Regiment
Unit Text:    2nd Bn.
Date of Death:    09/12/1914
Service No:    9302
Casualty Type:    Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:    Panel 53 and 55.
Memorial:    YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

from CWGC site
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Re: alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 02:13:32 PM »
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Re: sergeant major william bailey
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 02:15:38 PM »
Here is a pic of them
  wonderful, where did you get the picture from?  we have photos of Alfred and Charles but none of Jack who I think is the one standing at the back, I would like to see a close up of this photograph if possible, many thanks,  John

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Re: alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2007, 02:19:11 PM »
and charles's name on the Menin Gate memorial

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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2007, 02:30:12 PM »
Description     
Medal card of Bailey, Charles William
Corps   Regiment No   Rank
2nd Manchester Regiment    9302    Lance Corporal
2nd Manchester Regiment    9302    Lance Corporal
Date    1914-1920

and his medal index card

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Re: alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2007, 11:37:59 PM »
You need to pm me with your e-mail, for a copy of the photo. Cheers MS

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2007, 11:59:15 PM »


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Re: alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 06:04:38 PM »
Mack?

The long service soldier sitting in front, he's lost his right hand hasn't he ?

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Re: alfred, charles and jack william bailey
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2007, 10:46:12 AM »
wendi   -  he lost three sons but as far as I know not his right hand    -  John