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William Graham from Stockport
« on: July 09, 2008, 09:03:29 AM »
Hi. I have found a postcard from William Graham dated 13.06.1918. It is sent to his sister Alice (my grandma). It is sent from Imtarfa he having arrived there on the Braemar. I didn't know He had been in the services and wondered what the best way of finding his record was. I believe that he was born 1894 and he is the brother of 2362 Graham (manchester 1/7) Kia Gallipoli. The postcard shows him with Cpl Hurst(S.W .po) described as a Cumberland athlete and a teacher in Carlisle and a man named Ornby (could be Hornby or Ormsby) a professional rugby player for Wigan. He describes them suffering from dysentey, malaria and something else I can't read.
I can only presume Willie was in the Manchesters because of his brother.

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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 11:02:31 AM »
hi steve

that would be Imtarfa in Malta, by 1918 soldiers where sent to which ever regiment needed them, so it's not really as easy as that

it might be a good idea to let us have a look at the card, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot something you didn't

can i ask what you mean by "(S.W .po)" ?

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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 12:34:31 PM »
Hi
I know it is a possible needle in a haystack and i'm not helping much.
I have attached a copy of the back of the card. You are no doubt correct when you say a fresh pair of eyes may see it in a different light. I totally agree.
The S.W po I believed to be a reference to the home regiment of Cpl Hurst.
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 12:49:20 PM »
excellent mate

now could you do t'other side!

ta

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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 12:57:50 PM »
With pleasure
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 01:06:40 PM »
shame they didn't keep their hats on!  ( great pic tho!)
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 04:35:44 PM »
Great photo Steve !

For what it's worth I think it says "S.W.B's" ~ a grand flourish on the end of the B ~ South Wales Boarderers  ???

Maybe it would be worth approaching the historian at Wigan Rugby Club.

Wendi  :)
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 07:12:22 PM »
driver 112480 william,douglas graham
royal field artillery
officers mess cook
enl 20-10-15 at stockport
aged 21[nearly 22yrs old]
23 caroline st,edgeley,stockport
mother.eva,jane
occupation.clerk
religion.CofE
born.stockport 1894
posted to 8th res battery on 22-10-15.
posted to 11th div artillery column on 3-3-16
went to salonika with D.battery,3rd brigade on 1-9-16 till 27-5-18.
arrived sick at malta,on 1-6-18,invalided home on 21-6-18,admitted to bermondsey military hospital,ladywell rd,SE london on 10-7-18
discharged as medically unfit,on 17-9-18
war+victory medals.

mack
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 07:18:09 PM »
Once again you amaze me with your ability to get to the result as soon as you do

Thanks

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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 09:47:27 PM »
Great photo Steve !

For what it's worth I think it says "S.W.B's" ~ a grand flourish on the end of the B ~ South Wales Boarderers  ???

Maybe it would be worth approaching the historian at Wigan Rugby Club.

Wendi  :)

of course!

well done Wendi and mack
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2008, 10:14:59 PM »
Could the fact that the chap is from Carlisle and a Cumberland athlete and accepting that the letter is a b with a flourish could the S.W be something to do with Scotland. Please don't think I'm questioning your judgement.

Steve

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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 10:27:20 PM »

if you are looking at regiments that a man would have been recruited into in 1914/1915, then yes, local regiments is the place to look. but in 1918, after conscription and the break-up of the pals regiment in the fighting on the somme, the make-up of the the army regiments had changed.

regular army were mixed with territorials, kitchener's recruits and conscripts and all combinations

my 2d ;)
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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2008, 10:58:36 PM »
I have just downloaded William Grahams medal card thanks to your efforts and noticed under the medal title a handwritten note that looks like S.W P lists


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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2008, 11:18:15 PM »
I have just downloaded William Grahams medal card thanks to your efforts and noticed under the medal title a handwritten note that looks like S.W P lists


its SWB steve,silver war badge.
mack

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Re: William Graham from Stockport
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 09:05:36 AM »
from the NA site

The Silver War Badge

The Silver War Badge (SWB), sometimes erroneously called the Silver Wound Badge, was authorised in September 1916 and takes the form of a circular badge with the legend "For King and Empire-Services Rendered" surrounding the George V cypher. The badge was awarded to all of those military personnel who were discharged as a result of sickness or wounds contracted or received during the war, either at home or overseas.
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