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Mack's Miscellany / Re: drowned on the warilda
« Last post by PhilipG on May 19, 2019, 10:12:46 AM »
Mack,

I note that UC49 was sunk on the 8th August 1918 by the destroyer HMS Opossum in the English Channel off the coast of Devon with the loss of all hands.      PhilipG.
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Mack's Miscellany / drowned on the warilda
« Last post by mack on May 19, 2019, 04:38:34 AM »
acting captain reginald,lightbown Bolton.69 south drive,chorlton cum hardy
capt Bolton was one of the walking wounded being transported from le havre to Southampton on the hospital ship warilda on 3rd august 1918 when she was torpedoed by the german submarine UC-49,103 walking wounded were trapped below in I.ward,all of them perished,captain boltons body was later recovered and his remains were cremated at Manchester crematorium.he was 30yrs old

he enlisted as private 6959 r.l bolton 16th manchesters in september 1914,served with them in france as a corporal until he was commissioned and posted to the 2/7th battalion.

he was a cotton shipping merchant in partnership with his father john in the firm of john bolton+company.

educated at monmouth grammar and manchester univercity studying commerce
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the officers and men in this photo are.

left to right
capt Arthur Kenneth grant[brigade major]1st royal west kents
brigadier general f.j kempster.DSO
captain harry,vivian,robert Hodson,north staffs regt[acting staff captain]

left to right
sergeant 8234 stanley,gold bishop[brigade clerk]1st royal west kents
pte 17657 james hooper[orderly room clerk]
sergeant 18610 walter heap,21st manchesters[acting quarter master sergeant]

the photo was taken at heaton park in 1915 and the men are the HQs staff of the 91st infantry brigade

mack
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1914 - 1918 / Re: Lieutenant Norris Jubb : 5th Manchesters
« Last post by PhilipG on May 16, 2019, 03:04:05 PM »
Tim,

Thank you.   I note your concern and agree that the officers apparently destined for service with the 5th Manchesters were attached to other regiments/battalions  e.g. 6th Glosters in respect of Hubert Crampton on the same draft.   Owen was told he would be in the Lancs.Fus.when he was drafted overseas.   In the event he served with the Manchesters in their 2nd battalion as you will know.  Thanks again. PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: Lieutenant Norris Jubb : 5th Manchesters
« Last post by Tim Bell on May 16, 2019, 02:02:25 PM »
The AR Roll says Pte 4731 N Jubb was commissioned 5th Bttn 31/05/1916 (LG 2/6/1916).  Nothing about wounds.  Norris Jubb had been an art teacher at Barnsley Grammar School,  lived on Dodworth Road, Barnsley and for a few years after World War 1 was resident in Uruguay. http://barnsleyartonyourdoorstep.org.uk/artists/

I have a little concern that these men may not have actually served in 5th Bttn, poss attached to another Bttn - like Wilfred Owen.
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1914 - 1918 / Lieutenant Norris Jubb : 5th Manchesters
« Last post by PhilipG on May 16, 2019, 09:55:15 AM »
This officer was one of Wilfred Owen's friends from the time they were both serving as cadets with the Artists Rifles.  Prior to enlistment he attended a technical college in Huddersfield.   He was drafted overseas in July 1916, but in December of that year was back in Southport with Owen - "recovering from a rifle-grenade injury" - which suggests an accident had taken place.   Is anything further known about this officer?    PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 2nd Lt. Hubert Crampton M.C. : 5th Manchesters
« Last post by PhilipG on May 14, 2019, 04:34:40 PM »
Tim,

Thank you. PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 2nd Lt. Hubert Crampton M.C. : 5th Manchesters
« Last post by PhilipG on May 14, 2019, 07:48:09 AM »
Some further research.  Hubert Crampton - Owen's friend - was in civil life a chartered accountant, but where he was in practice, e.g Manchester, I have not been able to discover.    PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 2nd Lt. Hubert Crampton M.C. : 5th Manchesters
« Last post by PhilipG on May 13, 2019, 07:11:48 AM »
Charlie,

Thank you for your help.  I note that Cadet Thomas Arthur Doran later left the 5th battalion and served with the RAF holding the rank of Pilot Officer.   PhilipG.
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