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1914 - 1918 / Re: A. L. Makinson, 1/5 Bn c.1915
« Last post by USMC0802 on Today at 07:10:19 PM »
Thanks Tim! 
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1914 - 1918 / Re: A. L. Makinson, 1/5 Bn c.1915
« Last post by Tim Bell on January 21, 2019, 06:52:00 PM »
If A L Makinson served post War, the MoD still hold his Service File.  I'll try to find the link for the list of relevant names...
I applied to MoD for the file on Capt John Madden and found it helpful.  This was not available through NA.
Tim
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1914 - 1918 / Re: A. L. Makinson, 1/5 Bn c.1915
« Last post by USMC0802 on January 21, 2019, 01:37:26 AM »
Many thanks again to those who've offered input.  I've had some success in researching various US servicemen, but digging into the UK personnel is a new experience with which I'm not yet well versed. 

I do understand that many of the WW1 records were lost/destroyed, but may investigate further with the folks at Kew to see what we can turn up on him there.  Fascinating history to be sure! 
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1914 - 1918 / Re: A Zeppelin, Cleethorpes and the Manchester Regiment
« Last post by mack on January 21, 2019, 01:32:06 AM »
32208 james,francis Kelly
46 high st,denton
wounded in right leg
died 18-11-1923
aged 33
buried denton cemetery.D.480
buried in same grave as sgt 10861 Thomas jones,2nd south lancs
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1490 L/Corporal C. Dempsey MM : 2nd Bn. Manchester Regt.
« Last post by PhilipG on January 20, 2019, 04:14:25 PM »
Timberman,

Many thanks.     PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1490 L/Corporal C. Dempsey MM : 2nd Bn. Manchester Regt.
« Last post by timberman on January 20, 2019, 03:46:08 PM »
Philip

His name was Charles Dempsey and he was a Regular
soldier and joined the Manchester's in 1911 as an 18 year
old.

The MM as you said could of been for any of the actions in Sept 1918
as so many were awarded, the war diaries don't help as the names are
all clubbed together and not noted on the days or for what they were awarded.

Timberman
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1914 - 1918 / Re: A. L. Makinson, 1/5 Bn c.1915
« Last post by PhilipG on January 20, 2019, 12:50:36 PM »
USMCO8O2,

Thank you for your post.  Your reply seems to indicate the type of determination prevalent in the USMC which I first came across in 1943, when Uncle Sam sent me from the UK to the US for flying training.    One of my flying instructors was a fearsome Captain in the US Marine Corps Reserve and a veteran of Guadalcanal.   I wish you every success in your research.   PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1490 L/Corporal C. Dempsey MM : 2nd Bn. Manchester Regt.
« Last post by PhilipG on January 20, 2019, 11:55:01 AM »
Charlie,

Thank you.   As you may have detected, over the years on this forum, I have always felt particular sadness when a long serving soldier is killed in action within sight of the end of hostilities.   Corporal Dempsey's death at Joncourt seemed to fall into this category.   As regards citations for MM's, I note that a total of 22 such awards were made to the battalion between the 4th and 20th September 1918.  One of these related to Corporal Dempsey.    PhilipG.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: A. L. Makinson, 1/5 Bn c.1915
« Last post by charlie on January 20, 2019, 07:50:14 AM »
Hello Tyler,
Mack‘s suggestion is usually the best option, I have tried an online search for his file and it appears not to have survived (or it could be me :) ).
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-officers-after-1913/

He also only seems to have the one entry in the London Gazette announcing his Commission in 1915, there after nothing.

A War Diary for the 1/5th Bn‘s time in Egypt is available, but only to read at the National Archives.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4557749 which may record his transfer to the RFA but there is no guarantee.

It is a long shot but it is possible that the entry on the MiC is correct and he did end up in the 1st Bn after his time with the RFA. There are two War Diaries covering the period 1916-20. Up to the end of March 1918 can be downloaded for a small fee, the other is again only available to read at the NA.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4557855
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ff4e9428b5514ac3ab41155dcd9aa16a

Charlie


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1914 - 1918 / Re: A. L. Makinson, 1/5 Bn c.1915
« Last post by mack on January 20, 2019, 01:56:13 AM »
hiya tyler.
you can get his service record from kew,that should hopefully have the answers,i don't now how you go about getting it but one of the gang will know,good luck.

mack
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