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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/7th Manchester Regiment in Sudan and then Gallipoli 1914/1915

« Last post by embees on Today at 10:47:15 PM »

Thank you so much for this information Keith,

The books you added the links to were more than I could have hoped for, and having had a quick browse through, no War Diary necessary to tell me any more than they do for my purpose, re my Gt. Uncle's period in Egypt/Sudan, it's covered!

Thanks again, much appreciated,
Margaret

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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/7th Manchester Regiment in Sudan and then Gallipoli 1914/1915

« Last post by Keith Brannen on Today at 10:01:08 PM »

What you have posted sounds correct.

The War Diary for that time has not been digitised yet at the National Archives site.

You can download a history of the battalion from a post on our site:
http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=2632.0

The history of the 42nd (East Lancashire) Division can be found here:
https://access.bl.uk/item/viewer/ark:/81055/vdc_100002230933.0x000002#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&xywh=-2151%2C-159%2C6142%2C3162

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1914 - 1918 / 1/7th Manchester Regiment in Sudan and then Gallipoli 1914/1915

« Last post by embees on March 26, 2023, 02:43:11 PM »

Hi, I am new to this forum and would appreciate any help which you can offer in my search.

I have a Gt. Uncle who was in this regiment and K.I.A. Gallipoli 29/05/15, his C.W.G.C. Certificate states he was 'D' Coy.
Navigating the War Diaries I'm confident that he was part of an operation in the Krithia Nullah area to move the line forward on the day he was killed.

I believe after the training at Hollingworth Lake, and being part of 42nd (East Lancashire) Division, they were mobilised 9th September and sailed to Egypt, disembarking at Alexandria on the 25th. They then sailed down the canal to Port Sudan where half a company remained to garrison the port. The remainder moved to Khartoum and garrison duties there. Can you confirm that I am correct in this and where I can find extra information on the regiment during the months they spent here in the middle east. I don't see the War Diaries covering this, unless I simply haven't found them.

Grateful for any assistance on where to look,
Margaret

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Hello / Re: Hello, New member searching details of Grandfather

« Last post by Hevs53 on March 23, 2023, 05:52:10 PM »

Hi Tim,
Thanks for getting back to me so quick.
My grandfather was called George Dean dob is 04/05/1898 lived in Oldham Manchester. He had a brother called Alfred. Hope that helps.

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Hello / Re: Hello, New member searching details of Grandfather

« Last post by Tim Bell on March 23, 2023, 07:44:40 AM »

Morning Heather,
The Labour Corps No '53538' was part of the group of numbers allocated to men transferred from 25th Infantry Labour Coy, King's (Liverpool) Regiment (KLR) in February 1917. See https://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/2012/01/formation-of-labour-corps-in-1917.html
There's no exact science to number sequences in the KLR but '78525' does correspond with other men who served in the Labour Coys. The Medal Roll shows the transfer from the KLR to the Labour Corps.
I can't find any reference to service in the Manchesters.  What do you have to indicate this? Parents names, age and address may also help.
Welcome to the Forum
Tim

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Hello / Hello, New member searching details of Grandfather

« Last post by Hevs53 on March 22, 2023, 08:15:43 PM »

Hi,
I’m Heather and searching for details about my Grandfather as my Father is going over to France in July.
My Grandfather was called George Dean he was a private in the Manchester Regiment in the labour corps his service number was 53538 he joined 24/05/1916 we know he was in France and we think he was gassed and lost an eye. He ended up in the Liverpool Regiment  service number 78525. My dad was hoping to find out exactly where he served and which hospital he may have been in. He has photos of him with nurses. Can anyone tell me how I may be able to find out this information. My father is 85 this year and it would mean a lot to him to be able to visit where his father served. Thanks in advance for your help.

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Applications for Commemoration / Re: Pte 2696 Edward Townsend (330232 Labour Corps)

« Last post by Tim Bell on March 21, 2023, 01:30:25 PM »

Edward Townsend died at home from Pul TB aggravated by service.  His widow was present.
Case sent to IFCP

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Newly Commemorated Men (CWGC) / Re: 3952 edward whitehead

« Last post by PaulC on March 19, 2023, 06:54:56 PM »

Find-a-grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/250914675/edward-whitehead#add-to-vc

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Newly Commemorated Men (CWGC) / Re: Pte 1551 / 376738 George Warburton

« Last post by PaulC on March 19, 2023, 05:38:21 PM »

No headstone as of yet. Have added a photo of the unmarked plot to Find-a-Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/243266182/george-warburton#add-to-vc

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Non Commissioned Graves / Re: Pte 492805 Nathaniel McGeoch Simpson (Labour Corps)

« Last post by PaulC on March 19, 2023, 02:20:25 PM »

The service record you've found belongs to his father (same name, also served), there are only pension cards for the son and these only mention service with the LC. So the only evidence for service with the Manchesters is the headstone. Can only speculate without further info.

Find-a-Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/250908646/nathaniel-mcgeoch-simpson