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Title: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 14, 2021, 02:07:47 PM
Hundreds of images in alphabetical order, but no apperent index at the moment. There is a good search function. I'm going to see if there are any 17th Bn men hidden away.
Here's what they say:-
These photographs have been extracted from the following newspapers: The Bury Times, The Bury Guardian, The Radcliffe Times, The Radcliffe Guardian, and The Ramsbottom Observer. This collection represents all the Bury Soldiers that were listed in the local newspapers regardless of regiment or location. If they appeared in one of the papers then they have been included in this collection. These images are not high quality due to the nature of the source but we do have plans to add higher quality images in future. These images also give the soldiers last known address which we have made every attempt to show on a map. In the instances where their last known address no longer exists we will be plotting the present day location.
https://www.buryarchivesonline.co.uk/soldier-records (https://www.buryarchivesonline.co.uk/soldier-records)
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 14, 2021, 02:24:38 PM
RICHARDSON WILLIAM  39  09/09/1917  Private  17th Bn.  '203181' POND FARM CEMETERY Son of the late John and Betsy Richardson, of Bury; husband of Edith Richardson of 121 Birley Street, Bury. Overseas with 5th Bttn (6697) after 1915. Lewis Gunner. KIA  by German shell at Wijschaete. His son Clarence was lost at Sea in the Dover Patrol in 1918. 
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 14, 2021, 02:43:41 PM
HARDMAN GEORGE 28  01/07/1916  Private  17th Bn '9273'  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mrs. Hardman, of 31, Oxford St., Bury; husband of Florrie Hardman, of 34, Cecil St., Bury, Lancs. One child. Formerly employed at Wrigley's paper mill, Heap Bridge. Attended Bank Street Unitarian Church. Previous Service Lancs Fusils. Enlisted 09/02/1915.  France 08/11/1915. Killed in action.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 14, 2021, 02:53:01 PM
HOWARTH          HERBERT             H            21                          01/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8658’    PERONNE ROAD CEMETERY, MARICOURT              Son of Robert and Mary Ann Howarth, of 100, Walmersley Rd., Bury, Lancs. Worked for Parr’s Bank, Bury, he  was originally buried in the French line of attack in the area of Faviere and Faviere Support trench, forming the German front line.  Herbert was last seen in Montauban near a crushed dugout on 2nd July[12].  One may speculate he had been directed, or helped eastwards, where he may have been killed on the battlefield and buried close by.  There is no other explanation why Herbert was buried in the French area.  The other men buried in the plot are August 1916 losses from other Divisions.  The group were relocated to Peronne Road in October 1918. Brother Ernest was also killed on 1st July.

Photos of Ernest and Herbert in archive. Herbert's is better from RBS Archive
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 14, 2021, 03:09:50 PM
HUBBARD THOMAS 24 11/07/1916 Private '8189' CORBIE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION SON OF ROBERT AND BETSY HUBBARD, OF 25, BOND STREET, BURY, LANCS. 8189.  Employed as clerk at Calico Printers Association. Nonconformist lay preacher. Enlisted 03/09/1914. Trained XIV Pln. France 08/11/1915. GSW Head Trones Wood 09/07/1916. Died 5th CCS.
Obit
Better photo from family.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: mack on August 15, 2021, 03:10:29 AM
thats a nice find tim,thanks
i came across three more for you while looking for 16th men
seth crook
john robert farrelly
arthur worrall

mack
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 07:39:26 AM
Well spotted Mack,

CROOK  SETH 37 06/11/1918 Serjeant Manchester Regiment 17th Bn. '47426' United Kingdom BURNLEY CEMETERY Husband of Isabella Hargreaves (formerly Crook), of 43, Temple Street, Burnley. 3 Children. Former resident of King Street, Bury. France after 1915. Died from GSW to head on 23/03/1918 and severe fits due to service at 4th London Gen Hospital, Denmark Hill.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 08:09:40 AM
FARRELLY JOHN RUPERT 21 25/06/1918  Lance Corporal  "C" Coy. 17th Bn. '10276' Germany BERLIN SOUTH-WESTERN CEMETERY. Son of Nicholas Edward and Eleanor Hannah Farrelly, of 29, Elms Rd., Whitefield, Manchester. Warehouseman at Hampson Mill Co, Blackford Bridge, Stand, enlisted 18th Bn 07/09/1914, aged 17.  Attended All Saint's Church, Stand. Trained VIII Pln. France 08/11/1915. Accidental wounding to back leg 29/06/1916. Someone had dropped a bomb in camp.  No6 Gen Hosp 01/07/1916. Joined 19th Bn 30/07/1916. Paid L/Cpl 06/02/1917. Posted 17th Bn 06/02/1918. POW Captured at Roupy 22/03/1918. Died from Pneumonia in Stendal Hosp. Parents not notified until 05/07/1920. 
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 08:21:54 AM
WORRALL ARTHUR  25   01/07/1916 Corporal 17th Bn.  '8993'   THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John and Alice Worrall, of 16, Falkland Rd., Southport. Previously resident Oakwood, Hamilton Road, Whitefield. In business with his father as a yarn merchant.  Trained VI Pln. France 08/11/1915. Missing presumed dead.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Pete Th on August 15, 2021, 08:45:26 AM
Thanks Tim, this is a great resource. Do you know if there's a way of searching by battalion? I'm interested in the 11th, however it looks like I have to search on "Manchester" and then open each entry to check the battalion.

Cheers
Pete
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 08:53:46 AM
Hi Pete,
I've been working through the Manchester Regiment entries and recognising or guessing names.  No search function for Bn, as far as I can see.
Tim
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 08:54:44 AM
MARSDEN  THOMAS RICHARD  45 01/07/1916 Serjeant  17th Bn.  '9047' Not 7047 THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Widow Nancy. 171 Manchester Road, Haslingden. Three Children. Previously 57 Bolton Street, Ramsbottom. Former Member of Ramsbottom Volunteer Corps.  Machine printer at Turnbull & Stockdale, Stubbins. Attended St Andrew's Church. Trained XVI and XX Plns. France 08/11/1915. Killed in action.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 09:00:37 AM
Pte 9521 Norman Wood Ramsden https://www.buryarchivesonline.co.uk/ramsden-gunner-n-w/ (https://www.buryarchivesonline.co.uk/ramsden-gunner-n-w/) Same record as MEN. KIA 01/07/1916.
I have good records on Norman and his brothers https://17thmanchesters.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/three-ramsden-brothers-in-the-17th-battalion-manchester-regiment/ (https://17thmanchesters.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/three-ramsden-brothers-in-the-17th-battalion-manchester-regiment/)
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Pete Th on August 15, 2021, 09:49:27 AM
MARSDEN  THOMAS RICHARD  45 01/07/1916 Serjeant  17th Bn.  '9047' Not 7047 THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Widow Nancy. 171 Manchester Road, Haslingden. Three Children. Previously 57 Bolton Street, Ramsbottom. Former Member of Ramsbottom Volunteer Corps.  Machine printer at Turnbull & Stockdale, Stubbins. Attended St Andrew's Church. Trained XVI and XX Plns. France 08/11/1915. Killed in action.

Thanks Tim, that’s what I thought.

Cheers
Pete
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: mack on August 15, 2021, 06:02:09 PM
tim four more

robert heys
ben hudson
ray horan
fred rushton

pete
theres only three 11th batt men

frank brooks
joe hutchinson
arthur kershaw

mack
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 06:17:16 PM
HEYS ROBERT 27 12/10/1916  Private  17th Bn.   '43166'   A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS  Resident Fallbarn, Bacup Rd. Rawtenstall. Sisters Hannah Hayes 127 Bacup Road, Rawtenstall. Sarah Jane Coupe, 37 Alma Cottages, Cloughfield.  Born Rawtenstall, Lancs. Shop assitant at Mr.Peter's Grocery, Queen's Sq. Formerly 25013, East Lancs Regt.  Enlisted Rawtenstall. Attested under Derby Scheme 11/12/1915. Mobilised 12th  E Lancs 18/3/1916. Attached mid-July and transferred 17th Bn 01/09/1916.  Killed in action. Disc identified 10/12/1917.    

No photo in archive, but address and employer.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 06:21:45 PM
HUDSON   BENJAMIN  22    15/10/1916  Private  17th Bn.    '9299'    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL    Resident Mayfield Terrace, Ashton on Mersey. Son of Emma Hudson and the late David Hudson, of Prestwich. Manchester. Fruiterer enlisted 15/02/1915 & trained XIX Pln. France 08/11/1915. KIA with D Coy.

No photo or Obit on Archive. See MEN https://17thmanchesters.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/manchester-evening-news-11-november-1916-hudson-b.jpg?w=150 (https://17thmanchesters.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/manchester-evening-news-11-november-1916-hudson-b.jpg?w=150)
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 06:26:23 PM
Pte 8612 Raymond Alfred Horan was captured at Trones Wood 09/07/1916 and held as POW. Resident Portugal Road, Prestwich. It appears he departed for Canada post war.
Address found from Archive.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 15, 2021, 06:34:46 PM
Pte 43173 Fred Rushton Son of William and Margaret Rushton, of 451, Manchester Rd., Baxenden, Accrington, Lancs. Attested 11/12/1915 Accington 26150 E Lancs. Mobilised 12th E Lancs Preston 20/3/1916 and Prees Heath. BEF 4/7/1916. Att 17th Manch 11/7/1916.  Transfer 17th Manch 1/9/1916. Killed in action 17/10/1916 Aged 20. Thiepval.
(I'd missed 16-17 Oct from my roll. Useful lesson learned)
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Pete Th on August 15, 2021, 07:08:45 PM
Thanks mack, I’ll take a look 👀

Cheers
Pete
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: mack on August 16, 2021, 01:11:05 AM
hiya tim
these are the last of them that i can see

william ashworth
adam armstrong
john,geo quinn

all original 17th men

mack
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 16, 2021, 08:33:12 AM
Thanks Mack

20th January 1916 - 1 O.R. Killed - 9110 Pte William Ashworth, aged 25.  Husband of Alice Ashworth, of Union Institution, Jericho, Bury, Lancs.  William was originally buried in Maricourt Military Cemetery, close to the cross-roads of the Albert-Peronne Road and Longueval Road.  His remains were exhumed and relocated to the CERISY-GAILLY MILITARY CEMETERY  in 1925.  He trained with XI Pln, C Coy.  The Register shows William's Effects were passed to his widow and confirms his death in Maricourt.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 17, 2021, 07:04:10 AM
Pte 9168 Adam Armstrong was 29 when he died from injuries sustained in a fatal Rifle Grenade accident on the previous day.  He had worked for James Wrigley Ltd  and was the son of Emily Armstrong, of 18, Yates Terrace, Calrows, Elton, Bury.  Training in XV Pln, Pte Armtrong  has disembarked with the Bn on 08/11/1915. Adam is buried in Chocques Military Cemetary.  Chocques was at one time the headquarters of I Corps and from January 1915 to April 1918, No.1 Casualty Clearing Station was posted there.  The Manchester newspapers confirmed Adam's treatment there.
Title: Re: Bury Archives - Obituary Photos
Post by: Tim Bell on August 17, 2021, 07:10:27 AM
QUINN  JOHN GEORGE   01/07/1916  Corporal 17th Bn.  '8815'    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Cromwell Rd, Heaton Park. Former Employee of CPA. Trained XIV Pln. France 08/11/1915. Killed in action by a shell.

MEN provides an Obit