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World War 2 => 1939 - 1945 => Topic started by: phil Pett on August 26, 2020, 11:16:47 AM

Title: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: phil Pett on August 26, 2020, 11:16:47 AM
Hello everyone,
I'm interested to find out about the Manchester Regiment.

My grandfather L cpl A C Hensman 1st Battalion died in Burma in 1944. I have his medals and intend to visit his grave in the future. 

Any suggestions about the history from around that time would be appreciated.

Thanks

Phil
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: mack on August 26, 2020, 02:19:22 PM
hiya phil
3523737 arthur,charles hensman
sadly your grandfather was unfortunate to get captured by the japs at singapore on 15th february 1942,and died as a prisoner on 19-7-44 at chungkai while working on the thailand-burma railway

born 26-9-1911
wife agnes,francis,flat 4.clowance st,devonport


his father 9315 george and his uncle 6662 ezra paul were long serving royal marines in the plymouth division,ezra was killed on 1st november 1914 in the battle of coronel on HMS monmouth

some of the gang may have some more info for you

mack
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 26, 2020, 02:38:52 PM
Mack,
Many thanks for the info. Can I ask where did you get the info about his father and uncle? Also his son? I would be very interested to find out more.
Thanks

Phil
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: mack on August 26, 2020, 04:52:23 PM
hiya phil
ignore the son william bit,he was a mix up by me,the wrong arthur hensman

mack
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 26, 2020, 05:29:39 PM
 :)

Ok
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: rafboy on August 27, 2020, 11:41:11 AM
Welcome Phill
I will see if I can add anything for you in the next day or so in the mean time I have turned your photo for you and added a copy that I had.
A visit to the area is well worth it.
If you message me with youre email address I can send you photos of the Chunki cemetery and the cemetery layout.
Cliff

PS: I tried to attach the turned photo but it posted the original way so deleted it.
Cliff 
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 27, 2020, 12:03:55 PM
I found this very colourful certificate and it would appear my grandfather must have re-inlisted at the outbreak of war.
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: mack on August 27, 2020, 12:29:12 PM
hiya phil
your grandfather enlisted for ten years,7 with the colours and 3 in the reserve,this is to show the date of his colour service

mack
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 27, 2020, 12:52:14 PM
Thanks Mack, where would I find that info myself?
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: mack on August 27, 2020, 01:37:59 PM
Thanks Mack, where would I find that info myself?

you have it in front of you phil,he was awarded the india general service medal with a clasp for burma 1930-1932,there are enlistment registers in the manchester archives at ashton that may have more info,ime not too clued up on this period,but some of the gang may know more.

phil,hope you dont mind me asking,is your mum patricia,the reason for asking is i cant find any children born to your grandparents,you can sometimes find the whereabouts of a soldier by the birth dates of his children

thanks for posting the picture of the certificate,ive never seen one before

mack
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 27, 2020, 02:07:51 PM
My grandmother married Arthur, but she had my mother from a previous marriage. My mother is still alive.
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: mack on August 27, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
hiya phil
your mum will probably remember her aunt and all her uncles

children of george,herbert+mary,ellen hensman.who married at the parish church,stonehouse 8-4-1900

names and births
george,albert.2-1-1903
william,john,19-8-1904,joined royal marines as 20476 w.j hensman 13-9-18
alfred,paul,9-10-1906
frances,h,s 20-11-1909,married royal marine 22076 stanley,frank blundy who was killed on 10-1-1941 on HMS illustrious,LSGC medal
arthur,charles,26-9-1911 manchester regiment
john,thomas,30-10-1913
samuel,henry,27-11-1913
walter,2-12-1917 died shortly after

your great grandfather george was awarded the british war medal,his brother ezra,paul awarded 1914 star and war+victory medals

mack
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: rafboy on August 27, 2020, 05:35:13 PM
Phil check your Forum messages.
Cliff
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 27, 2020, 05:44:00 PM
Loads of really useful info. And the National archives are free to download now.
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: rafboy on August 27, 2020, 07:17:03 PM
Phil, I looked for POW Record Cards on the National Archive site and it directs you to Find My Past so you have to pay to join to try to find them.
I believe you can still join the American FMP site for a month but it has to be a year for the UK one.
Cliff
 
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: phil Pett on August 27, 2020, 08:20:46 PM
Ok thanks
Title: Re: My grandfather
Post by: Bob.NB on August 28, 2020, 04:30:39 PM
Phil,
A list of Far East Manchester Regiment PoWs at The National Archives seems to show that your grandfather was living in Plymouth while his mother was living in Cheetham.
Unfortunately I cannot see when he traveled overland from Changi.
Bob B
Title: Re: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: phil Pett on August 28, 2020, 05:28:36 PM
Many thanks for that.

I'm new to all this so it's a bit confusing.
I have signed up to find my past so hopefully will be able make some sense of this.
Title: Re: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: mack on August 28, 2020, 05:29:15 PM
hiya bob
isnt that the address of the soldier after arthur

mack
Title: Re: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: Bob.NB on August 28, 2020, 06:07:39 PM
Mack,
Yes, I think you are correct - I missed the "arrow".
Apologies and best wishes.
Bob B
Title: Re: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: rafboy on August 28, 2020, 06:11:06 PM
Mack and Bob
The Plymouth address is his.
See the Roll of Honour for him: https://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/regiments/Manchester_Regiment/html/h_database_29.htm
It is the hand written "Mother" etc that belongs below.

Cliff
Title: Re: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: phil Pett on August 29, 2020, 07:50:15 AM
Thanks I will
Title: Re: My grandfather - Arthur Charles Hensman
Post by: rafboy on August 29, 2020, 10:05:01 AM
Phil
If you want me to send you more information check your Forum Messages and reply to my via it with your email address. The larger file POW group photos are too big to post on the Forum.

You will find Forum  messages in the list alongside "Home" in the orange towards the top of the page there should be a number under messages.

Cliff